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Bill Patterson  
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 More options Jul 3, 8:03 pm
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From: Bill Patterson <WHPatter...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 17:03:55 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jul 3 2008 8:03 pm
Subject: How Very Interesting!
One of AOL's trivial bits of throwaway fluff today (7/3/08) was a list
of the 10 books you must have read or else consider yourself left out:

1.  Margaret Mitchell:  Gone With the Wind (1936)
2.  J.R.R. Tolkein:  Lord of the Rings
3.  J.K. Rowling:  Harry Potter (all 7 of them apparently)
4.  Stephen King:  The Stand (1978)
5.  Dan Brown:  The da Vinci Code
6.  Harper Lee:  To Kill a Mockingbird (1961)
7.  Dan Brown:  Angels and Demons
8.  Ayn Rand:  Atlas Shrugged (1957)
9.  J.D. Salinger:  Catcher in the Rye (1951)
10. Doug Adams:  The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

Of course, leaving aside the grotesquerie of having two books by the
most-read-writer-who-has-trouble-stringing-words-together-coherently
on such a list, there are a number of odd and puzzling features about
it.  I don't think Catcher in the Rye has nearly the cachet now it did
in the middle decades of the last century, and there are many better
choices for a representative of King than the late-blooming-withered-
one-the-vine overwritten The Stand.  Gone With the Wind was hot in the
30 and 40's but it's considered a relic now; Jean Auel's doorstops
could stand in for that one.

But the most astonishing thing to me is that, depending on how you
count The da Vinci Code, five or six of these selections are specfic.

I might wax more about this if I could figure out what the heck
criterion they were using to make the selection.  It seems a hodge-
podge to me and with some glaring omissions.


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Kurt Busiek  
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 More options Jul 3, 8:08 pm
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From: Kurt Busiek <k...@busiek.comics>
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 17:08:13 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 3 2008 8:08 pm
Subject: Re: How Very Interesting!
On 2008-07-03 17:03:55 -0700, Bill Patterson <WHPatter...@gmail.com> said:

I've read six out of ten, and might get to CATCHER IN THE RYE someday.  
But I've got no interest in GONE WITH THE WIND, and if I'vegot to read
Dan Brown or be left out, I'll happily be left out.

I've got plenty to read while the cognoscenti are off doing whatever it
isthey do and I'm home, left out, with better books.

kdb


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Gene  
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 More options Jul 3, 8:06 pm
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From: Gene <g...@chewbacca.org>
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:06:52 GMT
Local: Thurs, Jul 3 2008 8:06 pm
Subject: Re: How Very Interesting!
Bill Patterson <WHPatter...@gmail.com> wrote in news:02f3a1d2-6c0e-4339-844c-
512cc04bc...@a32g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

> I might wax more about this if I could figure out what the heck
> criterion they were using to make the selection.  It seems a hodge-
> podge to me and with some glaring omissions.

So list the top ten glaring omissions.

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William December Starr  
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 More options Jul 3, 8:28 pm
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From: wdst...@panix.com (William December Starr)
Date: 3 Jul 2008 20:28:51 -0400
Local: Thurs, Jul 3 2008 8:28 pm
Subject: Re: How Very Interesting!
In article <02f3a1d2-6c0e-4339-844c-512cc04bc...@a32g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Bill Patterson <WHPatter...@gmail.com> said:

> One of AOL's trivial bits of throwaway fluff today (7/3/08) was a
> list of the 10 books you must have read or else consider yourself
> left out:

> 1.  Margaret Mitchell:  Gone With the Wind (1936)
> 2.  J.R.R. Tolkein:  Lord of the Rings
> 3.  J.K. Rowling:  Harry Potter (all 7 of them apparently)
> 4.  Stephen King:  The Stand (1978)
> 5.  Dan Brown:  The da Vinci Code
> 6.  Harper Lee:  To Kill a Mockingbird (1961)
> 7.  Dan Brown:  Angels and Demons
> 8.  Ayn Rand:  Atlas Shrugged (1957)
> 9.  J.D. Salinger:  Catcher in the Rye (1951)
> 10. Doug Adams:  The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

It's interesting how many of those entries fall under the "What we
really mean is, you need to have seen the movie(s)."

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William December Starr <wdst...@panix.com>


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Rich Horton  
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 More options Jul 3, 8:35 pm
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From: Rich Horton <rrhor...@prodigy.net>
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:35:25 -0500
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Subject: Re: How Very Interesting!
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 17:03:55 -0700 (PDT), Bill Patterson

Well, just so. I mean, what a stupid list! Hardly worth arguing about
much of it -- they are central books to our culture, good or bad, in
about 8 of 10 cases -- but ... but ... ANGELS AND DEMONS? Sure, I can
see why one might list THE DA VINCI CODE -- though I sincerely think
it will be all but forgotten in 20 years -- and it is truly one of the
most poorly written bestsellers of all time -- but why ANOTHER, rather
minor, Dan Brown book?

>there are a number of odd and puzzling features about
>it.  I don't think Catcher in the Rye has nearly the cachet now it did
>in the middle decades of the last century, and there are many better
>choices for a representative of King than the late-blooming-withered-
>one-the-vine overwritten The Stand.  Gone With the Wind was hot in the
>30 and 40's but it's considered a relic now; Jean Auel's doorstops
>could stand in for that one.

Can't agree, though I would agree that for 99% of us just seeing the
movie (which is essential) is enough.

Auel is almost forgotten now, let alone in 20 years. Mitchell was a
poorish writer, but she was much much better than Auel.

>But the most astonishing thing to me is that, depending on how you
>count The da Vinci Code, five or six of these selections are specfic.

>I might wax more about this if I could figure out what the heck
>criterion they were using to make the selection.  It seems a hodge-
>podge to me and with some glaring omissions.

Quite.

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lal_truckee  
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 More options Jul 3, 9:05 pm
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From: lal_truckee <lal_truc...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:05:09 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 3 2008 9:05 pm
Subject: Re: How Very Interesting!

Bill Patterson wrote:
> One of AOL's trivial bits of throwaway fluff today (7/3/08) was a list
> of the 10 books you must have read or else consider yourself left out:

> 1.  Margaret Mitchell:  Gone With the Wind (1936)
> 2.  J.R.R. Tolkein:  Lord of the Rings
> 3.  J.K. Rowling:  Harry Potter (all 7 of them apparently)
> 4.  Stephen King:  The Stand (1978)
> 5.  Dan Brown:  The da Vinci Code
> 6.  Harper Lee:  To Kill a Mockingbird (1961)
> 7.  Dan Brown:  Angels and Demons
> 8.  Ayn Rand:  Atlas Shrugged (1957)
> 9.  J.D. Salinger:  Catcher in the Rye (1951)
> 10. Doug Adams:  The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

I'm absolutely glad that I'm left out of that in group, whoever they are.

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Dimensional Traveler  
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 More options Jul 3, 10:10 pm
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From: "Dimensional Traveler" <dtra...@sonic.net>
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:10:33 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 3 2008 10:10 pm
Subject: Re: How Very Interesting!
Bill Patterson wrote:
> One of AOL's trivial bits of throwaway fluff today (7/3/08) was a list
> of the 10 books you must have read or else consider yourself left out:

> 1.  Margaret Mitchell:  Gone With the Wind (1936)
> 2.  J.R.R. Tolkein:  Lord of the Rings
> 3.  J.K. Rowling:  Harry Potter (all 7 of them apparently)
> 4.  Stephen King:  The Stand (1978)
> 5.  Dan Brown:  The da Vinci Code
> 6.  Harper Lee:  To Kill a Mockingbird (1961)
> 7.  Dan Brown:  Angels and Demons
> 8.  Ayn Rand:  Atlas Shrugged (1957)
> 9.  J.D. Salinger:  Catcher in the Rye (1951)
> 10. Doug Adams:  The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

I've read four of those.  And 'Catcher in the Rye' only because it was
required for a high school English class.

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History Channel is showing 'Ice Road Truckers' as part of their
"American Originals" brand of shows.

'Ice Road Truckers' is a show about Canadian truck drivers.


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Howard Brazee  
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 More options Jul 3, 10:32 pm
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From: Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net>
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:32:07 -0600
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Subject: Re: How Very Interesting!
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 17:03:55 -0700 (PDT), Bill Patterson

<WHPatter...@gmail.com> wrote:
>1.  Margaret Mitchell:  Gone With the Wind (1936)
>2.  J.R.R. Tolkein:  Lord of the Rings
>3.  J.K. Rowling:  Harry Potter (all 7 of them apparently)
>4.  Stephen King:  The Stand (1978)
>5.  Dan Brown:  The da Vinci Code
>6.  Harper Lee:  To Kill a Mockingbird (1961)
>7.  Dan Brown:  Angels and Demons
>8.  Ayn Rand:  Atlas Shrugged (1957)
>9.  J.D. Salinger:  Catcher in the Rye (1951)
>10. Doug Adams:  The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

I won't ever read the Dan Brown works, and am unlikely to finish the
Harry Potter books.   I might or might not read _The Stand_, probably
not.    I haven't found that I'm missing anything.

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Howard Brazee  
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From: Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net>
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:32:43 -0600
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Subject: Re: How Very Interesting!
On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:05:09 -0700, lal_truckee

<lal_truc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I'm absolutely glad that I'm left out of that in group, whoever they are.

Those books made a lot of money.

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Kurt Busiek  
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 More options Jul 3, 11:08 pm
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From: Kurt Busiek <k...@busiek.comics>
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:08:16 -0700
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Subject: Re: How Very Interesting!
On 2008-07-03 17:28:51 -0700, wdst...@panix.com (William December Starr) said:

If you count movies, I've seen seven of 'em.  And the other three,
there are no movies of, though two of 'em are in the works.

kdb


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Date: 4 Jul 2008 03:16:30 GMT
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Subject: Re: How Very Interesting!

Bill Patterson wrote:
> One of AOL's trivial bits of throwaway fluff today (7/3/08) was a list
> of the 10 books you must have read or else consider yourself left out:

One for ten. Hitcher's Guide is the only one I've read or am likely to.

Brian

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