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Janet  
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 More options Jul 3, 8:49 pm
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From: "Janet" <boxh...@maine.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:49:21 -0400
Local: Thurs, Jul 3 2008 8:49 pm
Subject: Grilling Whole BIG Fish?
Okay, so I was at the supermarket and they had whole mahi mahi. They were
small for mahi mahi--about 3 1/2 lbs--but still a lot bigger than the whole
fish I usually buy; that is, bass or trout usually running no bigger than a
bit over a pound each. They were also very will priced. So I bought one. Now
I have to figure out what to do with it!

It's much to big to fry in my wok, as in [Chinese] Whole Crispy Fish. I may
even have to cut the head off to fit it on my rather small webber grill. (I
have the baby size.)  Any ideas, folks? I'd kind of hate to end up cutting
it up, but that may be the what I resort to.


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Sheldon  
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 More options Jul 3, 9:23 pm
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From: Sheldon <PENMAR...@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 18:23:07 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jul 3 2008 9:23 pm
Subject: Re: Grilling Whole BIG Fish?
On Jul 3, 8:49 pm, "Janet" <boxh...@maine.rr.com> wrote:

> Okay, so I was at the supermarket and they had whole mahi mahi. They were
> small for mahi mahi--about 3 1/2 lbs--but still a lot bigger than the whole
> fish I usually buy; that is, bass or trout usually running no bigger than a
> bit over a pound each. They were also very will priced. So I bought one. Now
> I have to figure out what to do with it!

> It's much to big to fry in my wok, as in [Chinese] Whole Crispy Fish. I may
> even have to cut the head off to fit it on my rather small webber grill. (I
> have the baby size.) Any ideas, folks? I'd kind of hate to end up cutting
> it up, but that may be the what I resort to.

Get yourself to an ethnic market and buy a package of banana leaves,
they'll be in a refrigerated case, ask.  Prepare a stuffing with
sauted veggies, bread crumbs, and some sort of shellfish; chopped
shrimp, crab, fresh clam is excellent (cook the shellfish briefly),
add some coco lopez if you like.  Stuff the fish, douse it with fresh
lime juice, and wrap in the banana leaves with knobs of butter... tie
loosely with string and put it on your grill and cook with medium-low
indirect heat for about 45 minutes per side.  Serve with fresh
tropical fruit (pineapple is good) and plenty cervesa.

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 More options Jul 3, 11:25 pm
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From: TFM® <hillbilly...@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 23:25:46 -0400
Local: Thurs, Jul 3 2008 11:25 pm
Subject: Re: Grilling Whole BIG Fish?

"Abe" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote in message

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>>> Okay, so I was at the supermarket and they had whole mahi mahi.
>>> So I bought one.
>>> It's much to big to fry in my wok, as in [Chinese] Whole Crispy Fish.
>>> I may even have to cut the head off to fit it on my rather small
>>> webber grill.

>>Do you have or have access to a grill?  That would be the way I'd go.
>>Michael

> Dear Michael "Dog3". Learn how to fucking read you dolt!

Since there is currently no manufacturer of "Webber" grills, one could
assume he reads just fine.

Fillet it.  Toss the rest to the cats.

TFM®


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Janet  
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 More options Jul 4, 9:35 am
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From: "Janet" <boxh...@maine.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 09:35:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Grilling Whole BIG Fish?

"TFM®" <hillbilly...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message

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> Since there is currently no manufacturer of "Webber" grills, one could
> assume he reads just fine.

> Fillet it.  Toss the rest to the cats.

> TFM®

Oh, is it "Weber"?  You can see how often I use it.

Cats? No way. If I don't cook the whole thing the head and frame go in the
freezer for fish stock.


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Janet  
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 More options Jul 4, 9:43 am
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From: "Janet" <boxh...@maine.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 09:43:52 -0400
Local: Fri, Jul 4 2008 9:43 am
Subject: Re: Grilling Whole BIG Fish?

"Michael "Dog3"" <f...@good.hot> wrote in message

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That does sound good, but I can't see managing a total of 1 1/2 hrs of
medium-low indirect grilling on my undersized tabletop charcoal Weber.
(Grilling is not my forte, I admit.)

I may aim at a version that cooks faster, stuffed with only aromatics.


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 More options Jul 4, 10:33 am
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From: "kilikini" <kiliki...@NOSPAMhotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:33:26 -0400
Local: Fri, Jul 4 2008 10:33 am
Subject: Re: Grilling Whole BIG Fish?

Janet wrote:
> "Michael "Dog3"" <f...@good.hot> wrote in message

>> That is a really good idea. I've used them once with success. Janet's
>> mahi mahi should be an easy fisht to prepare a stuffing for.

>> Michael

> That does sound good, but I can't see managing a total of 1 1/2 hrs of
> medium-low indirect grilling on my undersized tabletop charcoal Weber.
> (Grilling is not my forte, I admit.)

> I may aim at a version that cooks faster, stuffed with only aromatics.

How about steaming the fish?  Personally, I'd stuff the belly cavity with
mayo, lemon slices, tomato, onion, cilantro (or parsley), and garlic.  Then
I'd slather some mayo on the top side of the fish along with some more lemon
wedges, possibly tomato, season with salt and pepper, wrap in foil,
parchment or even banana leaves (if you can get them) and pop it in the oven
or grill.  I've had great success like that.  It doesn't take long to cook
that way, either.

kili


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 More options Jul 4, 10:35 am
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Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:35:54 GMT
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Subject: Re: Grilling Whole BIG Fish?
"kilikini" <kiliki...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in
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Brine the fish and smoke it @ 150-200F for several maybe 6 hours.

--

The house of the burning beet-Alan


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 More options Jul 4, 10:42 am
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From: "kilikini" <kiliki...@NOSPAMhotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:42:56 -0400
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Subject: Re: Grilling Whole BIG Fish?

And you're entitled.  :~)  Mayo on fish is kind of a Hawaiian thing.  It
makes the fish really moist, but you can't taste it or see it on the fish
after the fish is cooked.  It's just one way how I learned to prepare many
types of meaty fish and I've grown to like it.

kili


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 More options Jul 4, 12:23 pm
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Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 09:23:11 -0700
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Subject: Re: Grilling Whole BIG Fish?

"Abe" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote in message

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I'm sure we'd all manage to find a way to go on without you.

kimberly


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Janet  
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 More options Jul 4, 2:56 pm
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From: "Janet" <boxh...@maine.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 14:56:49 -0400
Local: Fri, Jul 4 2008 2:56 pm
Subject: Re: Grilling Whole BIG Fish?

"kilikini" <kiliki...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message

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> And you're entitled.  :~)  Mayo on fish is kind of a Hawaiian thing.  It
> makes the fish really moist, but you can't taste it or see it on the fish
> after the fish is cooked.  It's just one way how I learned to prepare many
> types of meaty fish and I've grown to like it.

> kili

Do you use the mayo even on the outside of a whole, unskinned fish?

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 More options Jul 4, 4:06 pm
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From: Sheldon <PENMAR...@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 13:06:32 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jul 4 2008 4:06 pm
Subject: Re: Grilling Whole BIG Fish?

"Janet" wrote:
> "kilikini" <kiliki...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:486e36db$0$17657

> > And you're entitled. :~) Mayo on fish is kind of a Hawaiian thing. It
> > makes the fish really moist, but you can't taste it or see it on the fish
> > after the fish is cooked. It's just one way how I learned to prepare many
> > types of meaty fish and I've grown to like it.

> > kili

> Do you use the mayo even on the outside of a whole, unskinned fish?

Mayo is esentially oil, but with a wee bit of flavoring.  When heated
it de-emulsifies and goes back to it's liquid state.  Slathering fish
(or any meat) with mayo is really just a way to help keep it from
sticking to the grill/pan... works especially well with non-oily
seafood... works great with shrimp... and excellent for shark steaks.
Painting the fish skin with mayo is a great way to prevent sticking
and add a little flavor (mostly a bit of salt will remain)... and what
do you think tartar sauce is?  After cooking you'll never know there
was any mayo, you won't see it and you wont taste it.

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From: Gloria P <gpues...@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:26:56 -0600
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Subject: Re: Grilling Whole BIG Fish?

Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> "kilikini" <kiliki...@NOSPAMhotmail.com>
> news:486e36db$0$17657$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com: in
> rec.food.cooking

>>  Mayo on fish is kind of a Hawaiian thing.
>> It makes the fish really moist, but you can't taste it or see it on
>> the fish after the fish is cooked.  It's just one way how I learned to
>> prepare many types of meaty fish and I've grown to like it.

> Hmmm... maybe I'll give it a try.  For some reason mayo on fish does not
> sound too appetizing to me.  If you can't taste it and it makes the fish
> moist... hell I'm game ;)

I can vouch for it not leaving any flavor.  It is a good way to keep the
fish from sticking and keep it moist and it clings a bit better than
olive oil, which is our other alternative.

Rule # 1 for fish:  DON'T overcook!

gloria p


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