Tired of waiting for a real-world description of Godel's ideas? If you're like me, you will be getting more than a little peeved by tripping the other-worldly round of concept-empty technicalese,, theories, consistencies and the like.
So here's the first of what I hope will be, or should be, a range of naturalized expositions of the essential Godellian Incompleteness Project:
1) Godel tells us that: "A bucket of water can hold ten pints, but it can't hold the waters of Niagra Falls."
Peter_Smith wrote: > On Jul 3, 11:01 pm, John Jones <jonescard...@aol.com> wrote: >> Tired of waiting for a real-world description of Godel's ideas?
> Nope, because there are plenty of "real-world descriptions", in some > excellent books at various level of difficulty.
> We are perhaps getting a bit tired, though, of waiting for you grow up > and stop your tedious trolling.
The example I gave was a good one, and inspired. Perhaps you could use it as a demonstration to others:
A bucket system is able to hold all waters (ten pints) defined by the bucket system. All waters are the same; however, there are some waters (Niagra Falls) that cannot be held by the bucket system.
Well? It's good isn't it. Perhaps a few tweaks here and there, but well worth looking at.
> Peter_Smith wrote: > > On Jul 3, 11:01 pm, John Jones <jonescard...@aol.com> wrote: > >> Tired of waiting for a real-world description of Godel's ideas?
> > Nope, because there are plenty of "real-world descriptions", in some > > excellent books at various level of difficulty.
> > We are perhaps getting a bit tired, though, of waiting for you grow up > > and stop your tedious trolling.
> The example I gave was a good one, and inspired. Perhaps you could use > it as a demonstration to others:
> A bucket system is able to hold all waters (ten pints) defined by the > bucket system. All waters are the same; however, there are some waters > (Niagra Falls) that cannot be held by the bucket system.
> Well? It's good isn't it. Perhaps a few tweaks here and there, but well > worth looking at.
Let's give it a try: You are a Viagra Fall of stinky truisms and trivial nonsense. Worth the trash bin.
> On 4 Jul, 10:33, John Jones <jonescard...@aol.com> wrote:
> > Peter_Smith wrote: > > > On Jul 3, 11:01 pm, John Jones <jonescard...@aol.com> wrote: > > >> Tired of waiting for a real-world description of Godel's ideas?
> > > Nope, because there are plenty of "real-world descriptions", in some > > > excellent books at various level of difficulty.
> > > We are perhaps getting a bit tired, though, of waiting for you grow up > > > and stop your tedious trolling.
> > The example I gave was a good one, and inspired. Perhaps you could use > > it as a demonstration to others:
> > A bucket system is able to hold all waters (ten pints) defined by the > > bucket system. All waters are the same; however, there are some waters > > (Niagra Falls) that cannot be held by the bucket system.
> > Well? It's good isn't it. Perhaps a few tweaks here and there, but well > > worth looking at.
> Let's give it a try: You are a Viagra Fall of stinky truisms and > trivial nonsense. Worth the trash bin.
Now, let's look at this peculiar bucket, the trash bin: it grows and grows and nobody can tell if ever will it stop growing. A bucket system big enough to even hold all the Viagra Falls ever. A bucket system so big that even a leaf would fit in it, and even a thousend trees. The bucket system bigger than any bucket system one can even think out. The bucket system of all bucket systems ever, no compromise included and/or excluded inside within and outside. The trash bin: a wanderful example of the Goedel argument.